Forum Oficjalnego Klubu Mitsubishi - MitsuManiaki

[TheApache]

Hi Guys,

I would try to write in Polish part but it may not be so clean and clear so in order to see if it would help anyone, I am posting in English forum.

If you look at my old post, I bought my Lancer Sedan 1.8 143 hp more than 2 and half years ago from second owner. The fella passed away if I remember correct and left it to her daughter and she sold it to me. When I bought it had around 115k km, and now I have around 150k km. I have been very satisfied with the car except for rear brakes and lots of paint chips all around the car.

I was reading the forum about the timing chain issues and it was concerning for me to keep driving car without changing it. Lately I wanted to sell it and buy an Outlander but the prices are crazy so I decided to keep it for a few more years at least.

The history of the car is kind of question mark to me and I am crazy about keeping the car running properly and change stuff on time. Last week when I was looking through the internet I found that Mitsustyle shop had a good discount on original parts (no advertisement, just found them on allegro) so I bought timing chain set (rozrad kompletny) for 793 PLN and oil for 230 PLN. The labor cost is 400 PLN. So excluding oil its cost 800 for parts + 400 for labor.

The set contains

Timing chain - the new one (lancuch rozradu) 1140A073
Tensioner (napinacz) MN183894
and 2 guides (prowadnica x2) MN183892 and 1141A004

I also bought Liqui Moly engine oil Leichtlauf High Tech 5W-40. Before that 2 times I bought Eneos Sustina 5w30 and shell helix Ultra 5W30. If you ask why 5W40, it s just the reviews I have been checking for the oils.

I left the car to my mechanic 2 days ago and just got it today and I will summarize for you what he said:

-He mentioned that the old timing chain was not in bad situation however it stretched a little bit when he compared with the new chain, I think its normal after 150k km. Here is the old chain:



- The tensioner was not doing its job anymore and he said that I was lucky as the chain has not jumped until now and the important note here is that previously my previous-mechanic checked it from the top of the engine and he did not see any issues. He was telling me to keep driving without spending money on it.

- In my car`s case, mechanic thinks someone played with the chain guides before and did some weird stuff.

- Apart from all these, head gasket (uszcelka) was not looking good so he changed it as well( I asked him to change whatever he sees in bad condition) and he also told me something like `symering` or `simering` was also needed to be changed but my Polish was not good enough to translate it back to english- might that be seal - Uszczelniacz wału korbowego ?

Valve clearances (luzu zaworowego) are okay and apart from the tensioner, head gasket and simering (explained above) he told me that the engine looks really good and clean.

Yeah, so I spent some money to have peace of mind for some more years and keep in mind, I did not have really much symptoms about any issue with timing. Rarely I used to hear the ticking noise from the top of the engine like a sewing maching working or when you cold start the car you hear the rattle for 1-2 seconds. I think it is good to invest some money on it if you want to keep your car.

[LukasiusPomorze]

It is great that you shared your experience with us.
Many people are not aware that not only a milage but also a time defines when you should replace parts like tensioner or oil.

Good maintenance will have positive impact of longevity of your car. And remember less weight in your wallet will make your car run faster.

By the way do you have informations about valve clearance ? I'm curious about the values for each valve.

[TheApache]

[LukasiusPomorze]

20k km for oil change is simply too late, as far I remember from my studies engine oil in naturaly aspirated engine will lost most of his chemical features before 7000km.
Ofcourse it doesnt mean that after 7000km your engine will blow out, just revelas that in this situation your engine oil is chemically very close to oil from McDonalds

It is common issue in car industry that brake calipers stuck from time to time.
Cleaning caliper inside is what you need - I did it in last winter and it works great now.

It is simple operation and takes about 2 hours but there is a catch - it must be cleaned and greased without leaving any contaminations.
Calipers wont work too long if you leave some dirt inside.
This is why you need trusted mechanic for this job, otherwise you will end up buying new caliper sooner than you can think.
After cleaning caliper you have to remember to bleed out air from hydraulic installation.

I said it is simple operation but please dont be me and dont do it yourself because your wife wont recognieze you from grease monkey

You are lucky that your wheel didnt stop on the highway.

[TheApache]