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Economics of importing Japanese cars from the US? |
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Carl Morris
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 Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 17:01 Economics of importing Japanese cars from the US?
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| I'm curious about why it made economic sense to bring cars such as the Colt to Poland from the US? Or did it not make sense economically, but you just wanted one and couldn't get a LHD version from anywhere closer? I had assumed all this time that all Mitsubishis except the Eclipse were sold directly into Europe from Japan? |
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Matejko 
Mitsumaniak
Macho Paczo
Auto: IS220D
Kraj/Country: Australia
Dołączył: 04 Kwi 2005
Posty: 7054
Skąd: Calish4nia
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| Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 17:08
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not all, for example carisma is only for europe made in holand
here you can see my cars,
and importing cars from US is economic because even with all taxes etc. used cars are cheaper, better extra outfit ... |
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Mateusz <Matejko>
Nissan Juke
Mazda 2
Lexus IS220D
Calish4nia
dużo jeżdże i lubię jeździć, ale jak jeżdżę po autostradach, to czasami zdarza się, że widze takich wariatów co zapieprzaja, aż głowa puchnie... ledwo co ich wyprzedzam |
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Carl Morris
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| Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 17:17
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Nice. Those wheels look good on that htb i(?). It's also interesting how the two shades of red look the same to me when the cars are far apart but you can see that they are different.
So if a person buys a 5k usd used car from the US, what is the final cost by the time it is legal to drive on Polish roads? |
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Matejko
Mitsumaniak
Macho Paczo
Auto: IS220D
Kraj/Country: Australia
Dołączył: 04 Kwi 2005
Posty: 7054
Skąd: Calish4nia
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| Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 18:00
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| Carl Morris napisał/a: | | t's also interesting how the two shades of red look the same to me when the cars are far apart but you can see that they are different. |
it's the same colour, both cars are from '96 the difference is from that one was kept on the air, and second in garage,
wheels at now are on sedan...not quite they are in garage 
| Carl Morris napisał/a: | | what is the final cost by the time it is legal to drive on Polish roads? |
transport about 1000$
excise for cars to 2000ccm
new and 2 years old 3,1%
3 years old 15,1%
4 years old 27,1%
5 years old 39,1%
6 years old 51,1%
7 years old 63,1%
8 and more years old 65,0%
more than 2000ccm
new and 2 years old 13,6%
3 years old 25,6%
4 years old 37,6%
5 years old 49,6%
6 years old 61,6%
7 and more years old 65%
and vat tax 22% is count from the price with the excise |
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Mateusz <Matejko>
Nissan Juke
Mazda 2
Lexus IS220D
Calish4nia
dużo jeżdże i lubię jeździć, ale jak jeżdżę po autostradach, to czasami zdarza się, że widze takich wariatów co zapieprzaja, aż głowa puchnie... ledwo co ich wyprzedzam |
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Carl Morris
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| Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 19:08
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| So if I'm understanding correctly, a 5k usd car (1991/1992) would cost 5k * 1,65 * 1,22 = ~10k usd + ~1k usd transport. You can't get equivalent cars locally for a better price than that? |
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Matejko
Mitsumaniak
Macho Paczo
Auto: IS220D
Kraj/Country: Australia
Dołączył: 04 Kwi 2005
Posty: 7054
Skąd: Calish4nia
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| Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 19:50
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not in this condition, and not every model was offered in poland/europe, so its easier to buy in US, you can find in poland VR4 or dynamic 4 even gti for 1500$ but it will be a piece of sh** 
how much you have to pay for new EVO IX in US?
and it will be question which kill somebody from the forum, how long you have to work to earn money for EVO  
in poland cheapest evo IX 280PS costs about 56700$
EVOLUTION IX GT340 is the most expensive for about 70000$
average polish worker have to work for it all his life, and more |
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Mateusz <Matejko>
Nissan Juke
Mazda 2
Lexus IS220D
Calish4nia
dużo jeżdże i lubię jeździć, ale jak jeżdżę po autostradach, to czasami zdarza się, że widze takich wariatów co zapieprzaja, aż głowa puchnie... ledwo co ich wyprzedzam |
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arturro
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| Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 21:25
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| Carl Morris napisał/a: | | So if I'm understanding correctly, a 5k usd car (1991/1992) would cost 5k * 1,65 * 1,22 = ~10k usd + ~1k usd transport. You can't get equivalent cars locally for a better price than that? |
shippment car so old like example is unprofitable because in UE you should buy for few Euro.
In Poland excise and duty rise with age and its based on invoice so "we" buy quite new, cheap car from auction - not everybody but most.
| Carl Morris napisał/a: | | by the time it is legal to drive on Polish roads? |
you must only change back red ligts (direction) on orange and remodel front ligt (if necessary) or give some money in pocket on first technical inspection  |
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Carl Morris
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| Wysłany: 16-08-2006, 21:46
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| Matejko napisał/a: |
how much you have to pay for new EVO IX in US?
and it will be question which kill somebody from the forum, how long you have to work to earn money for EVO
in poland cheapest evo IX 280PS costs about 56700$
EVOLUTION IX GT340 is the most expensive for about 70000$
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Ouch, usd? I can buy a new IX RS for about 28k usd, GSR = 32k, MR = 34k. This is about 1/2 year salary for the average American, about 1 year salary for most rural or non-college-educated Americans. Of course there are plenty of richer people in many places for whom this is lunch money. Unfortunately I don't fall into the last category or I would have one. We have many young people in our club who don't have much money yet, so they buy worn out FWD cars, but most will eventually be able to afford something like an EVO if that is a high priority for them. For most Americans, once they marry and have children they no longer care about fast cars, though. I'm one of the odd few who's never grown up  .
I understand the economic effects of the world economy on salary, sometimes those factors work against me and help raise wages in India instead. I didn't realize that the vehicles would cost so much in Poland, though. |
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papa
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| Wysłany: 29-08-2006, 21:45
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| Cytat: | | I can buy a new IX RS for about 28k usd, GSR = 32k, MR = 34k. This is about 1/2 year salary for the average American, about 1 year salary for most rural or non-college-educated Americans. |
The only problem is that I don’t want to live in US
We have to pay for World Wars, mistakes and especially communism!
But we won't give up! (fixed)
About children: I think it is the same in Poland. But there are always exceptions  |
| Ostatnio zmieniony przez papa 30-08-2006, 18:58, w całości zmieniany 1 raz |
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Carl Morris
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| Wysłany: 29-08-2006, 23:38
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| papa napisał/a: | But we want give up!
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I assume you meant "won't give up"  .
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About children: I think it is the same in Poland. But there are always exceptions |
Yes, unfortunately for our wives, some of us never grow up... |
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minimus
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| Wysłany: 04-09-2006, 11:30
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[quote="Carl Morris"]I didn't realize that the vehicles would cost so much in Poland, though.[/quote]
Compared to the rest of the EU the cars in Poland are generally not so expensive. I you really want to see how expensive they can be look up prices in Denmark. |
| Ostatnio zmieniony przez Hubeeert 04-09-2006, 11:34, w całości zmieniany 1 raz |
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